"I
started my life in health care as a nursing assistant because I needed
a job to get off the farm," says speaker and consultant Clint Maun.
"They hired me because I was big." He stuck with it through
high school and college, then moved into health care management, regional
management and eventually health care ownership positions.
In 1985, Clint
chose to take his extensive industry background and channel it into
his own consulting and speaking company, Maun-Lemke Inc. From only
two employees, the company has grown to include more than 30 affiliates
and associates and partners. "We specialize in people issues
in health care," he says.
Clint is a
nationally known speaker and health care expert and has received the
designation of distinction, Certified Speaking Professional, from
the national Speakers Association. He holds a bachelor's degree in
clinical and industrial psychology, an educational background he describes
as "a terrible mix of trying to fix the world." We spoke
to him from his office in Omaha, Neb.
Here's my finely
tuned and profound theory on this whole long-term care recruitment
and retention issue: it's a problem.
Why else ask me
my expert opinion? That's brilliant.
How did we
get to this crisis point?
I think there
are three ways we got there. One, we've had an explosion of need for
health care workers, not only at hospitals as they continue to put
other nurses and nursing assistants on board, but also in home care,
assisted living and skilled nursing. The rules and regulations, the
requirement for staffing, and the fact that we now take care of sicker
patients in nursing homes has increased the demand. Second, because
of the image issues associated with being a health care professional,
a lot of people have chosen not to go into that profession, or in
some cases have even tried to escape from it. They leave with a very
negative opinion.
The third reason
is that a lot of providers didn't start paying attention to this issue
until recently. Until they were in trouble with quality, service and
cost, they didn't put staff recruitment and retention in the top two
or three strategic goals for the organization. So I think the explosion
of the need, a negative image and a lack of attention.
So you spend
a good part of your time advising long-term care operations on how
to solve this problem.
Yes, we are speakers,
consultants and researchers, and I would suggest that over 50 percent
of our business practice is in speeches and seminars at associations
and companies on this topic of recruitment, selection and retention.
The rest of my time is spent in actual hands-on consulting on the
development of a proactive and positive plan to deal with this issue.
We also write articles, and develop tool kits, video and audiotape
products and technical assistance programs by conference and video
streaming to deal with this. So we're very involved.
On the topic
of recruitment and retention, let's start with the money. How much
does it cost to find and retain an employee?
In terms of what
you can actually track on the profit/loss statement of a long-term
care facility, it would cost at minimum $2,500 to replace a person
at the beginning wage level. Most organizations think it's higher
than that. That's how much it typically costs to advertise, coordinate
the hiring, certify, train, get up and running, human resources and
cost, etc. And it goes all the way up to $20,000-$25,000 for a specialist
position, an RN or a higher-level management person. If you have 100
people who work in your building and you have 100 percent turnover,
you can count on the fact that the turnover cost at minimum is $250,000.
That doesn't take into account service level issues, regulatory/ compliance
issues, morale issues, unemployment costs and agency or outside employment
costs. It's a big dollar amount.
You've developed
the concept of the "Superteam." Is it safe to say that most
of what you recommend fits under that umbrella?
Yes. We believe
you can't fix any problem in health care anymore, and in fact you
can't deliver a day of service in health care, unless you're using
a team concept. The days of using vertically integrated programs or
top-down, parent-child models are over. It doesn't work to staff a
building, to get you the revenue you need collaboration. If you're
not forming Superteam guided with the leadership of the administrator,
and with key people working at cross-functional levels, you're not
going to get it done.
I recommend Superteam
as the most proactive help for people. Instead of focusing on "
Woe is us, there's a shortage, no one wants to be a nurse or nurse
aide," you have to decide to go the other way with a different
paradigm.
What is a Superteam?
A Superteam is
made up of a group of dedicated people who find it an honor to be
on the team, and usually includes ten to 12 people. The administrator
probably, in a typical health care facility, chairs it. The director
of nursing must be on the team, and if you have a human resources
professional, they should be on it. It might include the scheduler,
the in-service coordinator, a couple of unit managers or charge nurses,
and some nursing assistants, as well.
That team is going
to work on a vigorous "care plan," if you will. Think of
staffing as the patient, and the problem needs to be care planned,
just as we would for an actual patient in a health care facility.
They're going to write a 12-week plan. We believe that's the longest
period of time you can hold people together for a purpose. Otherwise
it turns into a committee, a policy-writing group and a bunch of mandatory
in-services.
That's an interesting
metaphor, comparing the patient care plan model to the problem of
staffing.
It allows people
to see clearly that fixing the staffing problem is very similar to
what we're trying to do every day with Mrs. Johnson in Room 113.
What happens
to the plan after it's developed by the Superteam?
You have to have
an action team that will dedicate themselves to a 12-week plan, with
numerical, outcome-based written goals. They also have to agree to
sign the plan and then report weekly on what they've done to be successful
in accomplishing the 12-week plan. That report goes to the higher-level
board or management structure. They keep score of their efforts, of
outcome-based achievements in areas such as reducing absences and
tardiness, getting people to pick up extra shifts, hiring, turnover
reduction agency count diminishing and other specific goals that are
tied to the plan.
What does the
plan include?
There are three
areas of the plan - the recruitment area, finding people; the selection
area, picking people; and retention area, keeping people. We believe
most facilities have some problems in recruitment and selection and
need to work on that, but the major focus should be in retaining people.
They've got to stop the revolving door. They have a core group of
people who have been there forever, but they continue to have turnover
of certain positions, shifts, or sections of the building.
Retention starts
with how you conduct formal orientation. It needs to change from a
1959 grade-school approach to training - an approach that's lethargic,
boring and basically a mandatory whipping - to a more invigorating,
involved process. It has to include the informal orientation, how
you take them out in the unit. It has to include giving the new employee
a customized checklist to that position, and providing a passionate
mentoring program with an assigned mentor who finds it an honor to
be a mentor. The mentor must be someone who is recognized for mentoring
people, not per person mentored, but by how many people he or she
mentored who are still there after three months, six months, and a
year. So the mentor's recognition is based on retention. The mentors
are also required to do return demonstrations and give the new employee
positive and improvement-oriented feedback about how he or she is
doing.
We make sure the orientation process for a new employee is just like
bringing a brand-new baby home from the hospital. We're going to take
care of them and not just leave them with the neighbors. We would
treat a spouse we just married in a passionate way, and we would treat
a brand-new baby in a passionate way. We have to do the same thing
with our brand-new co-workers.
When you use
the word "passionate," what do you mean by that?
That you don't
just throw them out there and say, "Who wants to take them, who's
stuck with them?" You don't let the wolves get a hold of them
and eat the young. You don't let the chronic negative people interact
with them in the wrong way. You don't juggle them around the whole
building and shift the mentor on them from one day to the next. You
don't wait to give them any feedback until they've been there 90 days
and tell them you're disappointed in them. You don't get on their
case the wrong way on their first day. In other words, you don't bring
a brand-new baby home from the hospital, a baby you waned so much,
and leave it alone or let just anybody take care of it, and it's the
same thing with new co-workers.
Because a new
employee makes a judgment very quickly on whether they want to stay.
Our research indicates
that in two to three days, the employee has already made up their
mind whether they think they can acclimate into this place. Are they
treated well, have they met new friends? Do they get good answers
to simple questions, or are they being impugned and swallowed up into
a hellhole? They might stay three weeks, we've even seen them stay
three to six months, but they've already made the mental decision
of whether they like this place or not very early. In fact, of that
$2,500 minimum turnover cost, we are able to calculate that anywhere
from 35 to 40 percent is directly related to how you create passionate
orientation.
Beyond orientation,
how do you go about creating an environment that's conducive to improve
retention?
People who work
in health care want to be able to get the work done, take care of
the residents, and be able to enjoy the work too. The younger workers
especially are not going to wait for fun. They don't want to say,
"Let's work hard and then go to the bar and gripe about what
happened at work today, and in only four more months we can wear a
rubber nose for Halloween." They want to have fun now. They want
to enjoy work right now. They want to have it be meaningful and they
want to be involved.
If you're going to put them on teams to improve things, today's co-workers
want to be involved in real teams on real issues, not fluffy feel-good
committees. They want to know they're making a difference. They want
to discuss real issues, like scheduling and time off. They want to
talk about how to fix clinical problems and deal with issues associated
with turf and territory, with collaboration problems on the unit.
So the more you involve them in real stuff, in real fixes at the real
level where the real problems are, the more you have a chance to keep
people.
Schedules especially are a very, very big deal. Time off is very important
to all people, particularly young workers. A lot of us of my age grew
up with work being very important to us. In contrast, the young co-workers
today don't mind working hard, but they don't get their entire value
out of work. They want to be able to also enjoy their lives and have
time off to do other things. And if you don't let them get involved
in some kind of team-based scheduling conversations on the unit, but
are still using an old parent-child model of scheduling where everybody
runs to one nut in a hut who's supposed to plan the time off, you're
going to have a lot of disenfranchised people. The young employees
never get a break in that model, because the senior co-workers already
have their pact with the scheduler on time off.
What about
the role of data gathering? How important is it to gather data on
retention?
You have to be
able to go out into the unit and into the building and dig for data
and it has to be specific. How much call off behavior do we have?
How many absences do we have? How much turnover? Do we have one position
on A- wing of the morning shift that we replaced four times, and it
turns out that the reason we replaced that person four times is because
we train them badly or treat them badly or give them the heaviest
care load or don't teach them how to handle the toughest customers?
You can sit around and say you have 87 percent turnover, but that
doesn't mean anything to anybody. It's when you can say that its position
on this shift has been replaced six times this year, a 600 percent
turnover rate that you can get to the real reasons that's occurring.
It could be bad supervision, the old eating the young, horrible care
load, lack of training, people who were forced to work a unit or shift
they didn't want to work. But once you start analyzing the big pressure
ulcers on the patient of staff retention, so to speak, you get a chance
to really drive home meaningful action.
How does the
team concept apply to the data gathering process?
You can start
on a specific unit. You can work together to set goals and targets,
like we're going to track and try to improve our tardiness, our call-off
behavior, and our pick up ability. You have to set measurable targets
and amounts of time, like over one week or two weeks. Break it down
into small intervals. Put scoreboards up on the unit. Talk about the
scores every day at the start of the shift. Celebrate success as a
team when the unit hits those scores.
Once you start
doing in-depth analysis, almost like an MDS for a patient, you start
to find the thresholds, the triggers so to speak, of what's going
to create the need to fix the stuff on that unit. That's what empowers
the team. The unit can also work together to keep the new employees
and mentor them and even recruit, from a unit-based perspective with
assistance from human resources, rather than waiting for somebody
else to bring them in.
Let's talk
a bit about the recruitment process. How can you most effectively
spread the word to prospective employees?
Well, I think
the mistake that's made is people wait for the corporate office or
HR person or the administrator or the DON to put an ad in the paper.
Then the next thing you find is we're in a retail mode, where we're
sitting, waiting, hoping somebody drives by slow and puts in an application.
The problem with that retail approach is that you're counting on magic
and fairy dust for that to happen. You've got to go to make it happen,
and the way to do that is not by putting an ad in the paper that says,
"Wanted: Hundreds! We're desperate! We need a boatland right
now!" That makes your ad look like everybody else's.
You have to go instead to interviewing your talented people in the
building, the people who show up, work extra, have great attitudes,
which have been there for a while and are super people. Even in the
worst staffed buildings in America, there are great people who do
a great job, and you have to interview them and ask them why they
work there and what makes them keep working there. You'll find out
some good things. First of all, you'll find common themes. You'll
find out themes of people of a certain age or a certain living location
or a certain background. We've even found that eight of our greatest
people all went to this church or had kids in this school or ride
this bus.
Then, you target
that area specially. The ads and the ad campaign need to be talent
based. They need to say something like, "What makes Mary special?"
There might even be a picture of her. "Mary works at our facility
because
" Then you put down three bullets with quotes from
her, followed by three more bullets that say, "We like Mary at
our building because
" And then at the bottom it says, "If
you enjoy what Mary likes and have these qualifications, call this
number for a professional interview." Then, put that ad in the
paper or on the radio. Make copies of the audiotape form the radio
or the flier from the newspaper and get 40 people in the building
to distribute five to ten copies of it to their friends and acquaintances.
That way, you get three to four hundred distributions targeted to
what makes people good in our building rather than sending the message
that we're desperate.
How would you
involve employees in the hiring and interviewing process?
Well, the other
mistake is that the crowd is always sitting on the unit hoping they've
got a new application, or worse yet, the wolves are sitting there
hoping they've got a new one to eat up. So instead of using the old
parent-child model of one or two people doing the interviewing, we
prefer to have teammates from the unit be involved in the interviewing.
We can teach them behavioral interviewing techniques, questions that
are specific and outcome-based about what the candidate has done in
the past, in order to get at what they're going to do in the future.
For instance,
questions along a theme of dependability are important. You'd want
to know that about a co-worker in health care. So you'd ask them to
describe a situation in the past at school or work when you aren't
going to be able to make it in when you are scheduled to be there.
Then you shut up, which is the key to interviewing, and you let them
talk. You teach co-workers how to ask those questions on dependability,
initiative, willingness, creativity, problem solving skills, handing
complex resident issues, family concerns. You put them in planned
files, ready to use for certain types of jobs and positions, and you
teach several staff members how to be involved in those interview
processes.
The advantage
there is that if they help pick them, they'll help keep them. If they
turn them down because they don't meet the qualifications, it's not
like management turning them all down. Now what can happen is the
crowd goes back to the unit and says, "Alright, ladies and gentlemen,
we had an interview today and it didn't go well. They weren't that
good, so we're just going to have to continue to work with who we
have and pick up extra shifts, because we don't want that type of
person on the unit". And if they did pick them, they'll go back
to the unit and say, "Gosh are we excited, we have a new one,
they're starting next, and they look really good. HR is checking their
references, and when they come on the unit we'll all welcome them".
So the best way to keep the wolves from eating the young is to
get them involved.
The wolves back
off of the wolf behavior if they have something to do with the process.
Of course, there are some wolves who don't really want us to ever
fix the staffing problem in the building, because then they can't
be the queen or king of chaos anymore, holding the building hostage
with their hissyfits and moods. And that's another part of this program.
The Superteam has to address those three or four people in the building
who might be holding the building hostage.
That's as simple
and straightforward a solution for the staffing crisis as we're ever
likely to hear: teamwork.
We have dozens
of teams up and running at any given time. It's not about us coming
in as consultants with a magic solution. It's simply this team deciding
they're sick and tired of being sick and tired. They're not going
to be held hostage to bad moods and bad attitudes and old practices.
They can attack this as a team, and accomplish success. We've seen
buildings that were in terrible staffing shape and in last place in
their marketplace, place that were using all kinds of outside help
at high price with little service quality. With the Superteam approach,
they've been able to stabilize themselves in a short period of time
to become the new positive place to be in the area.
It's kind of like turning the rocks in a kaleidoscope. If you turn
those rocks just a little bit, you get a whole new pattern. And that's
all we're creating, a different way of looking at things. If the team
gets busy on that, supported by the leadership of the building using
cross-functional endeavors and focused plans, there's no question
they can be successful.